tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1268296135669115060.post7827313752761498073..comments2023-06-23T05:59:00.099-07:00Comments on Second Slice: The Truth About FurriesMahala Rovianahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09681925755393138767noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1268296135669115060.post-10283569049684254932011-11-08T06:23:01.536-08:002011-11-08T06:23:01.536-08:00I appreciate all of the input this topic has gener...I appreciate all of the input this topic has generated, especially I am a Furry, although I personally prefer the term Anthro to furry as I represent something different from a bipedal animal. I represent that which is considered a hybrid. When I first joined, the clubs I tended to stay at were the furry night clubs. It was not until later that I rethought myself and became involved with some of the science-fiction RP communities, like Splintered Rock and Al-Raqis. I am one of the few anthros to frequent these sims and it is in my experience that, since I have tits and where clothing that reflects a certain noble status that I am very well received. There are other members of the Furry Fandom who are active in the same communities and tend to represent the unknown portion of Furries. They, like me, tend to focus on the roleplay more than seeking out someone to yiff. There are quite a few who excel within the community and bring something new to the table. As has been deduced by the previous commentors, Furries and Anthros are no more odd than the rest of you. In fact there are some furries who resent the presence of 'pinkies' or 'fleshies' these being the terms that I have come across which are used in reference to non-furrs. Nous sommes comme vous, comme vous êtes comme nous. And I should perhaps mention that not all of us furs represent something cute and harmless. Many of us, like myself, have created background stories that are as dark and twisted as the original writings of the Brothers Grimm.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1268296135669115060.post-14610410485180157652009-09-17T11:42:11.888-07:002009-09-17T11:42:11.888-07:00Warping this discussion back around to Mahala'...Warping this discussion back around to Mahala's initial topic: i.e., hating furries due to stereotyping them as pervs. First of all, not everyone who wears a furry avatar in SL identifies as "furry" in the rest of their life (I count myself as one of those). Second, while I cannot possibly meet every SL fur who exists to personally verify this (and violate their privacy while doing so), it is my firm opinion that the stereotype in question results from [a] ignorance among non-furs generally, and [b] sensationalism in the media (both entertainment and "news"), about [c] the behavior of 10% or less, not 90%.<br /><br />That said: I'm also confident that at least 90% of non-furs in SL -- a.k.a. humans -- harbor no ill will toward their furry cousins. Furry sims would be griefed a lot more often than they already are, were that the case.Lalo Tellinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07711076861284942835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1268296135669115060.post-44071794116528718132009-09-17T10:50:53.888-07:002009-09-17T10:50:53.888-07:00Dale, thanks for the response -- not at all supris...Dale, thanks for the response -- not at all suprised that you've already read Blink.<br /><br />Sure, "often wrong", but that's not the same thing as "generally and suprisingly accurate". All generalizations can be disproven by a single anecdotal exception.<br /><br />Still, while not 100% accurate, generalizations about appearance tend to be far better than 50/50, simply because most appearances are chose for a reason -- with the full knowledge that people can and will make judgements based on them.<br /><br />Face it -- stereotypes don't evolve in a vacuum. Sure, there are exceptions, but usually 10% or less.Kabakahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07422283018557633465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1268296135669115060.post-87963255309778409052009-09-17T10:42:45.801-07:002009-09-17T10:42:45.801-07:00Lalo, I don't disagree in the least. Most of ...Lalo, I don't disagree in the least. Most of the furries I've know are extreme non-conformists (and that's not a bad thing) and chose their fur to reflect that fact.<br /><br />Therefore I can safely judge most furries (or, the Furry community in general) as one of non-conformism.<br /><br />Unlike vampires, which are all alike and only out for one thing. :PKabakahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07422283018557633465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1268296135669115060.post-67218091860013515862009-09-17T10:03:38.744-07:002009-09-17T10:03:38.744-07:00Synchronicity rides again!
I am (obviously) a fur...Synchronicity rides again!<br /><br />I am (obviously) a furry, and just yesterday brought my <a href="http://lalotelling.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">blog</a> out from a furry social network at ning.com into public view. I added a link to <i>this</i> one as a comment <a href="http://lalotelling.blogspot.com/2009/09/second-re-post-from-f4l-from-round.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.<br />- - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br />@Kabaka: Some people I know, or have seen -- not only furries! -- chose their appearance in deliberate <i>defiance</i> of others' judgments (Goths and vamps, for example). Still others don't give a flying carpet -- "I am able to look any way I want, so why not?"<br />- - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br />I have a short tale about how I forestalled a fur-hater from griefing Luskwood... I guess I'll be blogging that soon, too.Lalo Tellinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07711076861284942835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1268296135669115060.post-33976600321193171382009-09-15T08:13:03.398-07:002009-09-15T08:13:03.398-07:00I have. It was okay. Quite anecdotal, but they w...I have. It was okay. Quite anecdotal, but they were fun anecdotes. :) It's a feature, but one that often works poorly; one of the points that comes out in the book is that some of our "blink" judgements are surprisingly accurate, and some aren't. (One thing that I thought was lacking in the book, in fact, is that he didn't try to go beyond the anecdotes, into any kind of conclusion about when they work well and when they don't.)Dale Innishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02771522211082181738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1268296135669115060.post-17057008721130335212009-09-15T07:13:54.881-07:002009-09-15T07:13:54.881-07:00Read McDowell's "Blink". Definetely ...Read McDowell's "Blink". Definetely a feature, not a bug.Kabakahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07422283018557633465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1268296135669115060.post-91732408391434283062009-09-15T06:27:05.414-07:002009-09-15T06:27:05.414-07:00Welll... I don't think the tendency to irrati...Welll... I don't think the tendency to irrational snap judgements is all that good a feature, really. It was a hack, like pretty much everything that evolves. <br /><br />Furries as a culture are pretty tolerant (as far as I can tell, the main reason they avoid non-furries, to the extent that they do, is that they've been the target of so much undeserved pestering by idiots). But concluding that any individual fur that you encounter on the grid must be cuddly and nonjudgemental would be an error (especially considering the many fur subcultures that are very fond of weapons of various kinds). :)<br /><br />Of course "cuddly and nonjudgemental" is a relatively benign conclusion to jump to. What's really bad is when someone sees that someone else belongs to some group, and concludes that they must be evil or stupid or inferior or dangerous. Like our anonymous friend up there. Those are the kinds of conclusions that it's really poisonous to jump to, as good as it might feel at the time...Dale Innishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02771522211082181738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1268296135669115060.post-27696106164412701652009-09-14T21:31:34.991-07:002009-09-14T21:31:34.991-07:00Exactly :)
We humans are a very judgemental speci...Exactly :)<br /><br />We humans are a very judgemental species -- it's a feature, not a bug.<br /><br />Furries may not be so judgemental... and one of the ways they show it is by dressing up as cute critters and hanging away from us "skinnies". That way, when we see them, we can immediately make a judgement call: "Oh look, its another one of those cuddly non-judgemental puppies!"Kabakahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07422283018557633465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1268296135669115060.post-36360412452767176152009-09-14T18:57:49.063-07:002009-09-14T18:57:49.063-07:00I think people are recommending against judging pe...I think people are recommending against judging people by their looks in directions that those looks don't actually rationally imply. Like judging that anyone who dresses differently than you'd expect must be dangerous or immoral or whatever. <br /><br />It's perfectly okay to judge someone by their looks or their actions if those looks are actions actually have a rational connection to the judgement. I might for instance form certain opinions about someone who starts a weblog comment with "Some of you are out of your minds". :) And that would be okay.Dale Innishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02771522211082181738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1268296135669115060.post-8502832526569791412009-09-14T16:18:31.522-07:002009-09-14T16:18:31.522-07:00Some of you are out of your minds.
Sure, it's...Some of you are out of your minds.<br /><br />Sure, it's wrong to judge people based on Race, Age, or things that they have no control over. But how about clothing, hairstyle, or that bolt you wear in your lip? <br /><br />Isn't the entire point of our choosing those outward appearance aspects so that people WILL judge us according to them?<br /><br />So please, spare me. If you wear a tie and nice shoes to the office, or if you wear jeans and an Ozzy T-shirt, I will be judging you.Kabakahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07422283018557633465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1268296135669115060.post-77341880215432520712009-09-14T10:34:52.208-07:002009-09-14T10:34:52.208-07:00smiles and applauds too also! Dale and Moggs and ...smiles and applauds too also! Dale and Moggs and your post really say it so very very well. It's a bit mindboggling to think that in a world that encourages us to create new societal constructs some can't seem to get away from sweepingly destructive (down right unhealthy) FL labelling and compartmentalizing. I love how you explored this topic. I too have often wondered about the knee-jerk, mean spirited reaction to furries and have never heard a good reason for it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1268296135669115060.post-9556378171396137142009-09-14T10:34:51.515-07:002009-09-14T10:34:51.515-07:00smiles and applauds too also! Dale and Moggs and ...smiles and applauds too also! Dale and Moggs and your post really say it so very very well. It's a bit mindboggling to think that in a world that encourages us to create new societal constructs some can't seem to get away from sweepingly destructive (down right unhealthy) FL labelling and compartmentalizing. I love how you explored this topic. I too have often wondered about the knee-jerk, mean spirited reaction to furries and have never heard a good reason for it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1268296135669115060.post-14744486919154276682009-09-14T07:47:53.701-07:002009-09-14T07:47:53.701-07:00*applauds* I never get people making judgement bas...*applauds* I never get people making judgement based on race, age or one aspect of a person - it's just dumb, people are so much more. In the virtual world, making judgements based on appearance and race is just that little bit more stupid.Moggs Oceanlanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17603374045478788009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1268296135669115060.post-50342462109869938902009-09-13T11:07:55.356-07:002009-09-13T11:07:55.356-07:00Yeah, furries are nice people in general; since th...Yeah, furries are nice people in general; since they're unusual themselves they tend to have more tolerance for other unusual people. The tendency to say "anyone who would play [something harmless] has got to be a freak" is the same tendency that leads to other forms of intolerance and hatred.<br /><br />The whole "bestiality" thing would be funny if it weren't so mean. What makes beastiality icky is that it's sex between a person and an animal that can't understand. But furries are people, and they do understand. Or at least I don't know of any furries who go around on all fours and make only animal noises. :)<br /><br />Some people just need a group to hate to make themselves feel important. Since it's so socially unacceptable to hate people because of skin color or religion, they're picking on furries instead. But like any other kind of bigot, they're sad, sad people.Dale Innishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02771522211082181738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1268296135669115060.post-25424454267151586902009-09-13T10:42:09.848-07:002009-09-13T10:42:09.848-07:00Name withheld to prevent repurcussions [sic]
Or a...<i>Name withheld to prevent repurcussions [sic]</i><br /><br />Or accountability, more like...<br /><br />The way I see it, we're all in SL to be what we want to be, to be viewed the way we want to be viewed. "Your World, Your Imagination" right?<br /><br />I'm afraid your plain, boring truth is unfortunately going to be pearls before proverbial swine (like the commenter "name withheld"). Titilating fiction is always more entertaining, especially to the small-minded.Laurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10293897431614182077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1268296135669115060.post-75172225385583351262009-09-13T08:48:54.294-07:002009-09-13T08:48:54.294-07:00I never understood why furries are considered outc...I never understood why furries are considered outcasts, but always felt it was a clash of cultures. That is, furries have more unconventional ideas of what they want their fantasy life to be, and the rest of us want our fantasies to revolve around the conventional.<br /><br />The unusual sexual behavior you have revealed is a bit of a surprise to me.Yordie Sandshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05257224182627492456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1268296135669115060.post-9936548610368106472009-09-12T22:46:09.491-07:002009-09-12T22:46:09.491-07:00Anyone who'd play a furry, a child, or have an...Anyone who'd play a furry, a child, or have an SL baby with an SL pregnancy has got to be a freak.<br />Name withheld to prevent repurcussionsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1268296135669115060.post-7781990963811352992009-09-12T19:59:26.063-07:002009-09-12T19:59:26.063-07:00Wait a minute.
"We have to stop jumping to c...Wait a minute.<br /><br />"<i>We have to stop jumping to conclusions, passing judgement on individuals based on outward appearances.</i>"<br /><br />Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the whole point of dressing up like a bunny is so that people will judge you based on outward appearance?<br /><br />I know it's certainly why I have huge pecs and incredibly sexy tattoos ;)Kabakahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07422283018557633465noreply@blogger.com